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tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"eaed943\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>01.09.2026<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d1356e5 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"d1356e5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep24-wendy-chang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-093d96f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"093d96f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dfff6fa elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"dfff6fa\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-09c903d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"09c903d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a2eb996 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a2eb996\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9c85886 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"9c85886\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep23-irene-chen-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/29075229\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast-23_Irene-Chen_4.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-664427\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/29075229\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast-23_Irene-Chen_4.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/29075229\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast-23_Irene-Chen_4-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/29075229\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast-23_Irene-Chen_4-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/29075229\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast-23_Irene-Chen_4-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/29075229\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast-23_Irene-Chen_4-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/29075229\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast-23_Irene-Chen_4-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9a2c6f4 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"9a2c6f4\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-72b55ae tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"72b55ae\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e09\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5ba0496 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5ba0496\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u5abd\u5abd\u7684\u5fc3\u64f4\u5927\u4e86<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67d8bc9 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"67d8bc9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u694a\u524d\u73b2\u30fb\u966a\u8ff7\u9014\u5c11\u5e74\u8d70\u51fa\u9ed1\u6697<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5b7c38c e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5b7c38c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1432b05 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1432b05\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u5f35\u8a60\u6db5 \uff08\u616e\u4e91\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d01ccf3 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d01ccf3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>01.02.2026<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-235f9dc tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"235f9dc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep23-irene-chen-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-20ca35c e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"20ca35c\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8530148 elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"8530148\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f99a668 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"f99a668\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3781143 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3781143\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-35a823f tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"35a823f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep22-munya-chu-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/22103237\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep22-Munya_Chu_interview_0000_685A6565.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-663467\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/22103237\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep22-Munya_Chu_interview_0000_685A6565.jpg 1400w, 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data-id=\"c8c5579\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b6644e9 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"b6644e9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e8c\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ed7f552 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"ed7f552\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title 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class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f017cb3 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"f017cb3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-291a2df e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"291a2df\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-06ebc9b tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"06ebc9b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep19-tina-tuan-interview%20\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/01151714\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep19-Tina-Tuan-interview_0000_685A6690.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-658637\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/01151714\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep19-Tina-Tuan-interview_0000_685A6690.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/01151714\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep19-Tina-Tuan-interview_0000_685A6690-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/01151714\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep19-Tina-Tuan-interview_0000_685A6690-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/01151714\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep19-Tina-Tuan-interview_0000_685A6690-768x433.jpg 768w, 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elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u5341\u4e5d\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3b3bc71 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"3b3bc71\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u521d\u5fc3\u662f\u5584\u7f85\u76e4<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-afabe2a tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"afabe2a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title 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href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep18-arthur-chih-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/25165120\/TzuChi-USA-podcast-ep18-Arthur-Chih-interview_0000_320DA7BF-BC84-4B29-B764-72708DF73AD9_1_201_a.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-657733\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/25165120\/TzuChi-USA-podcast-ep18-Arthur-Chih-interview_0000_320DA7BF-BC84-4B29-B764-72708DF73AD9_1_201_a.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/25165120\/TzuChi-USA-podcast-ep18-Arthur-Chih-interview_0000_320DA7BF-BC84-4B29-B764-72708DF73AD9_1_201_a-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/25165120\/TzuChi-USA-podcast-ep18-Arthur-Chih-interview_0000_320DA7BF-BC84-4B29-B764-72708DF73AD9_1_201_a-1024x578.jpg 1024w, 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tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5897641\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u5341\u516b\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-18df917 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"18df917\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u653e\u725b\u7ae5\u843d\u8173\u77fd\u8c37<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-392264f tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"392264f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014 \u6c60\u842c\u570b\u30fb\u7530\u57c2\u8d70\u9032\u4eba\u6587\u79d1\u6280<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3f0bc63 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"3f0bc63\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-722bbee tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"722bbee\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div 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elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep18-arthur-chih-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-561e3ce e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"561e3ce\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5ee73d2 elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"5ee73d2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2ef629d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"2ef629d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9952d45 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"9952d45\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-76390b8 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"76390b8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep17-dorothy-chang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/19143509\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep17-_0000_F0FE422B-8478-4EE8-87E8-EFB3853FFD33_1_201_a.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-656200\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/19143509\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep17-_0000_F0FE422B-8478-4EE8-87E8-EFB3853FFD33_1_201_a.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/19143509\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep17-_0000_F0FE422B-8478-4EE8-87E8-EFB3853FFD33_1_201_a-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/19143509\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep17-_0000_F0FE422B-8478-4EE8-87E8-EFB3853FFD33_1_201_a-1024x578.jpg 1024w, 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data-id=\"b994be9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u5341\u4e03\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ff8bdf8 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"ff8bdf8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u898b\u82e6\u77e5\u798f\u7684\u4eba\u9593\u8def<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-22f502c tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"22f502c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u6797\u91d1\u679d\u30fb\u7642\u990a\u9662\u5230\u8857\u89d2\u7684\u966a\u4f34<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a886a2e e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a886a2e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f9ed2ce tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f9ed2ce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u59da\u8494\u83c1\uff08\u6148\u4e9e\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element 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href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep16-sue-chao-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/11141741\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep16-ShuHui-Lee_0000_IMG_1716.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-654397\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/11141741\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep16-ShuHui-Lee_0000_IMG_1716.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/11141741\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep16-ShuHui-Lee_0000_IMG_1716-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/11141741\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep16-ShuHui-Lee_0000_IMG_1716-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/11141741\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep16-ShuHui-Lee_0000_IMG_1716-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/11141741\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep16-ShuHui-Lee_0000_IMG_1716-1350x762.jpg 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tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"1fb3955\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-04d88ce tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"04d88ce\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u674e\u6dd1\u6167\uff08\u6148\u741b\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dbe7fb8 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"dbe7fb8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>11.14.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-efc4d66 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"efc4d66\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep16-sue-chao-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-529c356 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"529c356\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" 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elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"9739cad\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u99f1\u6dd1\u9e97\u30fb\u6148\u6fdf\u73fe\u5834\u5149\u5f71\u7b46\u8a18<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-913df81 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"913df81\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4195588 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4195588\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div 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elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep15-shu-li-lo-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9c74e7d e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"9c74e7d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-31304b3 elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"31304b3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ad829c7 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"ad829c7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a03333b e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"a03333b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8975430 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"8975430\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep14-aking-huang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/29123733\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep-14-Aking-Huang_0000_IMG_1420.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-650899\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/29123733\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep-14-Aking-Huang_0000_IMG_1420.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/29123733\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep-14-Aking-Huang_0000_IMG_1420-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/29123733\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep-14-Aking-Huang_0000_IMG_1420-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/29123733\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep-14-Aking-Huang_0000_IMG_1420-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/29123733\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep-14-Aking-Huang_0000_IMG_1420-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/29123733\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep-14-Aking-Huang_0000_IMG_1420-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-aa623f0 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"aa623f0\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5c3770f tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5c3770f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u5341\u56db\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1d79add tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1d79add\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u505a\u5de5\u7d50\u597d\u7de3<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7eb7ee7 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"7eb7ee7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u9ec3\u632f\u6b3d\u30fb\u6f06\u51fa\u6148\u6fdf\u798f\u6167\u8def<br><\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f950913 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f950913\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7e623ff tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7e623ff\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u738b\u60e0\u5e73\uff08\u6148\u61c7\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cb559a9 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cb559a9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>10.31.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f60d888 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"f60d888\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep14-aking-huang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-dbbcc0e e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"dbbcc0e\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9691462 elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"9691462\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a67a7f1 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"a67a7f1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0a71b9f e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"0a71b9f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b3c8c03 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"b3c8c03\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep13-katherine-yang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/21123734\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep13-Katherine-Yang-interview_0000_IMG_1469.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-648137\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/21123734\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep13-Katherine-Yang-interview_0000_IMG_1469.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/21123734\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep13-Katherine-Yang-interview_0000_IMG_1469-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/21123734\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep13-Katherine-Yang-interview_0000_IMG_1469-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/21123734\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep13-Katherine-Yang-interview_0000_IMG_1469-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/21123734\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep13-Katherine-Yang-interview_0000_IMG_1469-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/21123734\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep13-Katherine-Yang-interview_0000_IMG_1469-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f3cf2c9 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"f3cf2c9\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f4a5d56 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"f4a5d56\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u5341\u4e09\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ffdc8df tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"ffdc8df\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u6eab\u6696\u662f\u7b2c\u4e00\u7ad9<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0b2ca40 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"0b2ca40\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><div>\u2014\u2014\u694a\u532f\u30fb\u524d\u53f0\u662f\u5b88\u8b77\u7684\u5b89\u5b9a\u529b\u91cf<\/div><\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5a732b5 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"5a732b5\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6c457a7 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"6c457a7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u5f35\u7487\u5152\uff08\u6148\u65bd\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c68c09e tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c68c09e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>10.24.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b19fca3 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"b19fca3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep13-katherine-yang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-70a025f e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"70a025f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e521275 elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"e521275\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span 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href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep12-lisly-lee-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/15114837\/TzuChiUSA-podcast12-Lisly-Lee-interview_0000_IMG_1679.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-646004\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/15114837\/TzuChiUSA-podcast12-Lisly-Lee-interview_0000_IMG_1679.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/15114837\/TzuChiUSA-podcast12-Lisly-Lee-interview_0000_IMG_1679-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/15114837\/TzuChiUSA-podcast12-Lisly-Lee-interview_0000_IMG_1679-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/15114837\/TzuChiUSA-podcast12-Lisly-Lee-interview_0000_IMG_1679-768x433.jpg 768w, 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data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>10.03.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1106d63 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"1106d63\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-10-shuhui-lee-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8c5b4c3 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"8c5b4c3\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-38051e6 elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"38051e6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1fd2057 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"1fd2057\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2f6b33f e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2f6b33f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ba42ad1 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"ba42ad1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-9-stephen-denq-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/24071258\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast9_Stephen-Denq_5-1024x578.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-639968\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/24071258\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast9_Stephen-Denq_5-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/24071258\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast9_Stephen-Denq_5-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/24071258\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast9_Stephen-Denq_5-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/24071258\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast9_Stephen-Denq_5-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/24071258\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast9_Stephen-Denq_5-675x380.jpg 675w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/24071258\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast9_Stephen-Denq_5.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ef1b94f e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"ef1b94f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c86b3f3 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"c86b3f3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u4e5d\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-08d8625 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"08d8625\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u91ab\u8def\u70ba\u4eba\u4e0d\u70ba\u5229<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8272488 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"8272488\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u9127\u535a\u4ec1\u30fb\u5f9e\u8a3a\u6240\u5230\u7fa9\u8a3a\u7684\u6148\u60b2\u5fc3<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ea4922c e-con-full e-flex 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class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0c1f6d7 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"0c1f6d7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-9-stephen-denq-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-446e274 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"446e274\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" 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elementor-element-e5120d7 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"e5120d7\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fe92c09 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"fe92c09\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep8-tung-ping-cheung-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/17093436\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast_EP8_Tung-Ping-Cheung_5-1024x578.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-638248\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/17093436\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast_EP8_Tung-Ping-Cheung_5-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/17093436\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast_EP8_Tung-Ping-Cheung_5-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/17093436\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast_EP8_Tung-Ping-Cheung_5-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/17093436\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast_EP8_Tung-Ping-Cheung_5-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/17093436\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast_EP8_Tung-Ping-Cheung_5-675x380.jpg 675w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/17093436\/TzuChiUSA_Podcast_EP8_Tung-Ping-Cheung_5.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d59d179 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"d59d179\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4df2dec tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4df2dec\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u516b\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9f36c80 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"9f36c80\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u5b78\u91ab\u70ba\u6c11\u4e0d\u70ba\u540d<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c354562 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"c354562\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u5f35\u79c9\u6771\u30fb\u5f9e\u6212\u5fc3\u5230\u4fe1\u4efb\u7684\u7fa9\u8a3a\u8def<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c48dd53 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"c48dd53\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8cd6051 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8cd6051\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u9673\u745e\u82d3\uff08\u660e\u5b9c\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4e165e0 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4e165e0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>09.19.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cb53841 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"cb53841\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep8-tung-ping-cheung-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-893f70a e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"893f70a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9759cee elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"9759cee\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-13775dd e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"13775dd\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-331a7ec e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"331a7ec\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-73feaaa tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"73feaaa\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep7-lina-lin-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/10120152\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep7-Lina-Lin_0000_IMG_1313-1024x578.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-636166\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/10120152\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep7-Lina-Lin_0000_IMG_1313-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/10120152\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep7-Lina-Lin_0000_IMG_1313-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/10120152\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep7-Lina-Lin_0000_IMG_1313-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/10120152\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep7-Lina-Lin_0000_IMG_1313-1350x762.jpg 1350w, 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data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>09.12.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b15a428 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"b15a428\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep7-lina-lin-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span 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href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep6-berlinda-lin-and-vincent-chen-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/04104204\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep6-_0000_IMG_1444-1024x578.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-633898\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/04104204\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep6-_0000_IMG_1444-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/04104204\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep6-_0000_IMG_1444-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/04104204\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep6-_0000_IMG_1444-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/04104204\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep6-_0000_IMG_1444-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/04104204\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep6-_0000_IMG_1444-675x380.jpg 675w, 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tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5f7fa73\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u56f0\u96e3\u4e0d\u662f\u7528\u9003\u7684\n<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f64bede tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"f64bede\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u6797\u5b5f\u8339\u8207\u9673\u5bb6\u748b\u30fb\u82e6\u96e3\u4e2d\u958b\u51fa\u5e0c\u671b\u7684\u82b1<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-33bfbf3 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elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"475e99c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e4f3f42 e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"e4f3f42\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fe22108 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"fe22108\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e3b641f tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"e3b641f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep4-suong-chang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/19223106\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep4_5-1024x578.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-630123\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/19223106\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep4_5-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/19223106\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep4_5-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/19223106\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep4_5-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/19223106\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep4_5-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/19223106\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep4_5-675x380.jpg 675w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/19223106\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep4_5.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2fc0846 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2fc0846\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-722a297 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"722a297\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u56db\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-93e9eb9 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"93e9eb9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u5f9e\u5bee\u570b\u5230\u7f8e\u570b<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a289a48 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"a289a48\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u5f35\u7487\u5152\u30fb\u7236\u89aa\u7684\u5584\u7a2e\u5b50\u958b\u555f\u6148\u6fdf\u8def<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9c04fd5 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"9c04fd5\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-37d00a1 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"37d00a1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u9673\u745e\u82d3\uff08\u660e\u5b9c\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9c0cae6 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"9c0cae6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>08.23.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2ea0c90 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"2ea0c90\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep4-suong-chang-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8428d56 e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"8428d56\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bfc636c elementor-widget-divider--view-line tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-divider\" data-id=\"bfc636c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"divider.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-divider\">\n\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-divider-separator\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cc48dd6 e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"cc48dd6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-630af05 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"630af05\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7e408fa tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"7e408fa\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep3-chingchuan-shih-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"452\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/13204511\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep3_9-1024x578.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-628981\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/13204511\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep3_9-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/13204511\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep3_9-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/13204511\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep3_9-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/13204511\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep3_9-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/13204511\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep3_9-675x380.jpg 675w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/13204511\/TzuChiUSA_2025-Podcast_Ep3_9.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4f4cdca e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4f4cdca\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2994ac3 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"2994ac3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u4e09\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1746e0e tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1746e0e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u704c\u6e89\u5fc3\u7530\u64ad\u5584\u7a2e<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-684364a tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"684364a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u65bd\u975c\u5a1f\u30fb\u7528\u6559\u80b2\u9ede\u4eae\u751f\u547d<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-053436f e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"053436f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1c9ca0e tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1c9ca0e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a\u9ad8\u6dd1\u73b2 \uff08\u6148\u80af\uff09<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7f4df6c tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7f4df6c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>08.16.2025<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c8b5c75 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"c8b5c75\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-sm\" href=\"\/zh\/blog\/podcast-ep3-chingchuan-shih-interview\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u73fe\u5728\u89c0\u770b<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d277c83 e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"d277c83\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" 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