{"id":669629,"date":"2026-01-13T13:45:17","date_gmt":"2026-01-13T21:45:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/?p=669629"},"modified":"2026-01-22T10:47:53","modified_gmt":"2026-01-22T18:47:53","slug":"podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview","title":{"rendered":"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"669629\" class=\"elementor elementor-669629 elementor-669349\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-34ec8a05 e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"34ec8a05\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-54aba20a e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"54aba20a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2d51422f e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2d51422f\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7b1097ef e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"7b1097ef\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3b0398c elementor-widget__width-initial tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"3b0398c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-1024x737.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-620554\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-1024x737.png 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-300x216.png 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-768x553.png 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-1536x1106.png 1536w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-2048x1474.png 2048w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-1350x972.png 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/14193856\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_Logo_CN-01-1-675x486.png 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6a18be1d e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6a18be1d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-155bd518 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"155bd518\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5018ad2a tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"5018ad2a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-553a851a tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"553a851a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5<\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e4fdad8 tcw-video-play-button-position-bottom-left tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-video\" data-id=\"e4fdad8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;youtube_url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/youtu.be\\\/BCyeXun6GX4&quot;,&quot;show_image_overlay&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;,&quot;image_overlay&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/01\\\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:669352,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;source&quot;:&quot;library&quot;},&quot;video_type&quot;:&quot;youtube&quot;,&quot;controls&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"video.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"tcw-has-video-play-button tzu-video-widget elementor-wrapper elementor-open-inline\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-video\"><\/div>\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-custom-embed-image-overlay\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121408\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg);\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-custom-embed-play\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"Play Video\" tabindex=\"0\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<i aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"eicon-play\"><\/i>\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"tcw-video-play-button\"><svg class=\"tcw-video-play-button-icon\" width=\"18\" height=\"18\" viewBox=\"0 0 460 531\"><path d=\"M.5.866l459 265.004L.5 530.874z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/div>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3748fa13 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3748fa13\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u5fd7\u5de5\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u5de6\uff09\u4e0e\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\u674e\u6dd1\u6167\uff08\u53f3\uff09\u5728\u300a\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u300b\u4e2d\u5206\u4eab\u5979\u4ece\u5bb6\u65cf\u521b\u4e1a\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u5fd7\u4e1a\u7684\u4eba\u751f\u5386\u7a0b\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u94b1\u7f8e\u81fb<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1ff24eb1 e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"1ff24eb1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-27c6036a e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"27c6036a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4433a18d e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"4433a18d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4ce8b54 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4ce8b54\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\uff1a<strong>\u674e\u6dd1\u6167\uff08\u6148\u741b\uff09<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2702b88d tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"2702b88d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>2011\u5e74\u52a0\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u5e7f\u64ad\u7ec4\uff0c\u4e3b\u6301\u8282\u76ee\u300a\u6d1b\u57ce\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u300b\uff0c\u5c55\u5f00\u4e00\u6bb5\u201c\u4ee5\u97f3\u4f1a\u53cb\u201d\u7684\u7a7a\u4e2d\u65c5\u7a0b\u3002\u867d\u975e\u5e7f\u64ad\u4e13\u4e1a\u51fa\u8eab\uff0c\u5374\u59cb\u7ec8\u76f8\u4fe1\uff0c\u58f0\u97f3\u80fd\u4f20\u9012\u6148\u6d4e\u4eba\u7684\u5584\u884c\u4e0e\u611f\u52a8\uff0c\u4e5f\u80fd\u5c06\u8bc1\u4e25\u6cd5\u5e08\u7684\u667a\u6167\u6cd5\u8bed\u5316\u4e3a\u6e29\u6696\u529b\u91cf\uff0c\u966a\u4f34\u542c\u4f17\u8d70\u8fc7\u4eba\u751f\u7684\u8d77\u4f0f\u3002\u671f\u5f85\u5728\u300a\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u300b\u8282\u76ee\uff0c\u4e0e\u5927\u5bb6\u4e00\u540c\u8046\u542c\u6148\u6d4e\u4eba\u8e0f\u5b9e\u884c\u5584\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6545\u4e8b\uff0c\u53d1\u73b0\u5fc3\u4e2d\u90a3\u80a1\u6e90\u6e90\u4e0d\u7edd\u7684\u5584\u4e0e\u7231\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7934d319 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7934d319\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u6765\u5bbe\uff1a<strong>\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u6148\u946b\uff09<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-52e6909d tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"52e6909d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u5979\u6210\u957f\u4e8e\u53f0\u6e7e\uff0c\u7ae5\u5e74\u65f6\u4fbf\u534f\u52a9\u5bb6\u4e2d\u7ecf\u8425\u9970\u54c1\u6279\u53d1\uff0c\u5728\u5fd9\u788c\u7684\u751f\u6d3b\u4e2d\u5b66\u4f1a\u627f\u62c5\u4e0e\u4ed8\u51fa\u3002\u6210\u5e74\u540e\u8d74\u6fb3\u6d32\u7559\u5b66\uff0c\u4e4b\u540e\u79fb\u5c45\u6d1b\u6749\u77f6\uff0c\u53c2\u4e0e\u5bb6\u65cf\u521b\u4e1a\uff0c\u5728\u5f02\u4e61\u6253\u62fc\u7684\u5c81\u6708\u91cc\uff0c\u7d2f\u79ef\u4e86\u4e30\u5bcc\u7684\u4eba\u751f\u5386\u7ec3\u3002\u6700\u7ec8\u5979\u8f6c\u800c\u6295\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u5fd7\u4e1a\uff0c\u4ece\u62a5\u7a0e\u670d\u52a1\u5230\u63a8\u5e7f\u9759\u601d\u7cbe\u795e\uff0c\u4ee5\u884c\u52a8\u4e66\u5199\u8e0f\u5b9e\u4eba\u751f\u3002\u5728\u300a\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u300b\u8282\u76ee\u4e2d\uff0c\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u5fd7\u5de5\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u4e0e\u4e3b\u6301\u4eba\u674e\u6dd1\u6167\u5206\u4eab\u201c\u4e0d\u591a\u60f3\u3001\u5c31\u53bb\u505a\u201d\u7684\u771f\u6027\u60c5\uff0c\u5982\u4f55\u5f15\u9886\u5979\u4e00\u6b65\u6b65\u8d70\u8fdb\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u4e5f\u5728\u670d\u52a1\u4f17\u4eba\u7684\u8fc7\u7a0b\u4e2d\uff0c\u627e\u5230\u4eba\u751f\u7684\u65b9\u5411\u4e0e\u4ef7\u503c\u3002\u4ee5\u4e0b\u4e3a\u8bbf\u8c08\u5185\u5bb9\u7684\u6574\u7406\u4e0e\u8282\u5f55\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2c316fd6 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2c316fd6\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-56e6e260 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"56e6e260\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u7f16\u8f91\uff1a<strong>\u9ece\u8273\u5a1f<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5dc2058e tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5dc2058e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>01.16.2026<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1fc47a9d e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"1fc47a9d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5fb69aa3 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"5fb69aa3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/3xLRlANfvQyan6185XrbzV\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"164\" height=\"45\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/01114806\/Asset-13-1.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-617766\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-516ef6ba tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"516ef6ba\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/small-treasures-great-love\/id1662700466\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"166\" height=\"46\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/01115917\/Asset-11-1.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-617773\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-26d7e1da tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"26d7e1da\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/feeds.soundcloud.com\/users\/soundcloud:users:1198395313\/sounds.rss\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"168\" height=\"46\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/01115936\/Asset-12-1.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-617777\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1143a695 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1143a695\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u7ae5\u5e74\u78e8\u70bc\u65e9\u5f53\u5bb6<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-49f29a05 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"49f29a05\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1098\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13125834\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_1.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669380\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13125834\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_1.jpg 1098w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13125834\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_1-300x216.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13125834\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_1-1024x737.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13125834\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_1-768x553.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13125834\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_1-675x486.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1098px) 100vw, 1098px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2009\u5e748\u67088\u65e5\uff0c\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u53f3\uff09\u4e0e\u5fd7\u5de5\u9ec4\u6021\u6d01\uff08\u5de6\uff09\u8d70\u5165\u5357\u52a0\u5dde\u7f57\u5170\u5c97\uff08Rowland Heights\uff09\u793e\u533a\uff0c\u5411\u6c11\u4f17\u63a8\u5e7f\u300a\u9759\u601d\u8bed\u300b\uff0c\u4f20\u9012\u5584\u5ff5\u4e0e\u4eba\u6587\u5173\u6000\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u9a6c\u5609\u745e<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7653c023 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7653c023\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>1991\u5e74\uff0c\u6211\u6765\u5230\u7f8e\u56fd\uff0c\u4e00\u76f4\u4f4f\u5728\u6d1b\u6749\u77f6\u3002\u53c2\u4e0e\u6148\u6d4e\u5c06\u8fd1\u4e8c\u5341\u5e74\u4e86\u3002\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u5bf9\u6211\u6765\u8bf4\uff0c\u5c31\u50cf\u662f\u4eba\u751f\u4e0b\u534a\u573a\u7684\u91cd\u5fc3\u3002<\/p><p>\u6211\u4ece\u5c0f\u5c31\u5728\u5bb6\u91cc\u5e2e\u5fd9\u505a\u751f\u610f\u3002\u6211\u5bb6\u6709\u4e94\u4e2a\u5144\u5f1f\u59d0\u59b9\uff0c\u56db\u5973\u4e00\u7537\u3002\u56e0\u4e3a\u5988\u5988\u60f3\u751f\u513f\u5b50\uff0c\u624d\u9646\u7eed\u751f\u4e86\u51e0\u4e2a\u5973\u513f\u3002\u6211\u5976\u5976\u5728\u5e02\u573a\u5356\u8c46\u8150\uff0c\u4e00\u697c\u7684\u5e97\u9762\u539f\u672c\u79df\u7ed9\u522b\u4eba\u505a\u9970\u54c1\u6279\u53d1\uff0c\u540e\u6765\u79df\u5ba2\u957f\u8f88\u5e74\u7eaa\u5927\u4e86\uff0c\u51c6\u5907\u9000\u4f11\uff0c\u5c31\u628a\u8fd9\u95e8\u751f\u610f\u8f6c\u8ba9\u7ed9\u6211\u4eec\u5bb6\u3002<\/p><p>\u6211\u4ece\u5c0f\u5b66\u4e09\u3001\u56db\u5e74\u7ea7\u5f00\u59cb\u5e2e\u5fd9\uff0c\u534f\u52a9\u6253\u5305\u3001\u51fa\u8d27\uff0c\u90a3\u65f6\u5019\u7684\u5e02\u573a\u5e76\u4e0d\u6ce8\u91cd\u5305\u88c5\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u4f1a\u6839\u636e\u5ba2\u6237\u9700\u6c42\u4e34\u65f6\u5904\u7406\u3002\u6709\u65f6\u5019\uff0c\u5ba2\u4eba\u4f1a\u5728\u665a\u4e0a\u5341\u4e00\u3001\u5341\u4e8c\u70b9\u6765\u53d6\u8d27\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u5c31\u5f97\u7b49\u8457\u3002\u5047\u65e5\u66f4\u662f\u4e0d\u80fd\u4f11\u606f\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6709\u4e9b\u5ba2\u4eba\u662f\u6279\u53d1\u5546\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u4f1a\u4e00\u6b21\u6027\u5927\u91cf\u8fdb\u8d27\uff0c\u51c6\u5907\u5230\u89c2\u5149\u533a\u53bb\u6446\u644a\u8d29\u552e\u3002\u6240\u4ee5\u6211\u4eec\u5e38\u5e38\u8981\u63d0\u524d\u5907\u597d\u8d27\uff0c\u751a\u81f3\u5468\u672b\u65f6\u8fd8\u8981\u4eb2\u81ea\u5f00\u7740\u5c0f\u8d27\u8f66\uff0c\u628a\u9970\u54c1\u8f7d\u5230\u89c2\u5149\u666f\u70b9\u53bb\u5356\u3002<\/p><p>\u90a3\u65f6\u5019\u771f\u7684\u6ca1\u6709\u5468\u672b\u3001\u6ca1\u6709\u5047\u65e5\uff0c\u4f46\u4e5f\u6b63\u662f\u8fd9\u6837\u7684\u5386\u7ec3\uff0c\u8ba9\u6211\u4ece\u5c0f\u5b66\u4f1a\u4e86\u8d23\u4efb\u4e0e\u72ec\u7acb\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e06d55e tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"e06d55e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121427\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0004_20230202-215759818-2490.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669364\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121427\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0004_20230202-215759818-2490.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121427\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0004_20230202-215759818-2490-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121427\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0004_20230202-215759818-2490-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121427\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0004_20230202-215759818-2490-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121427\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0004_20230202-215759818-2490-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121427\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0004_20230202-215759818-2490-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2014\u5e7410\u67084\u65e5\uff0c\u52a0\u5dde\u6a59\u53bf\u8d5b\u6770\u65af\u7279\u7f57\u59c6\u6b4c\u5267\u9662\uff08Segerstrom Center for the Arts\uff09\u4e3e\u529e\u6148\u5584\u52df\u6b3e\u97f3\u4e50\u4f1a\uff0c\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u5de6\uff09\u4e8e\u73b0\u573a\u6574\u7406\u97f3\u4e50\u4f1a\u7968\u5238\uff0c\u6295\u5165\u524d\u7f6e\u51c6\u5907\u5de5\u4f5c\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u989c\u56fd\u5174<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d2f216e tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"d2f216e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u6d77\u5916\u95ef\u8361\u8f6c\u4eba\u751f<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7c39e74 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7c39e74\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>18\u300119\u5c81\u4e94\u4e13\u6bd5\u4e1a\u540e\uff0c\u6211\u4fbf\u524d\u5f80\u6fb3\u6d32\u7559\u5b66\u3002\u5f53\u65f6\u5bb6\u91cc\u521a\u5f00\u59cb\u6d89\u8db3\u56fd\u9645\u8d38\u6613\uff0c\u89c9\u5f97\u82f1\u6587\u80fd\u529b\u76f8\u5f53\u91cd\u8981\uff0c\u5e0c\u671b\u6211\u80fd\u51fa\u56fd\u8fdb\u4fee\uff0c\u52a0\u5f3a\u8bed\u8a00\u5b9e\u529b\u3002\u5927\u5b66\u6bd5\u4e1a\u540e\uff0c\u56e0\u7f18\u9645\u4f1a\uff0c\u5988\u5988\u7684\u670b\u53cb\u6709\u610f\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd\u6210\u7acb\u8fdb\u51fa\u53e3\u516c\u53f8\uff0c\u4fbf\u9080\u8bf7\u6211\u8fc7\u53bb\u5e2e\u5fd9\u3002\u6211\u5c31\u987a\u52bf\u4ece\u6fb3\u6d32\u8f6c\u5f80\u7f8e\u56fd\uff0c\u6295\u5165\u5bb6\u65cf\u7684\u751f\u610f\u62d3\u5c55\u3002<\/p><p>\u5176\u5b9e\u6211\u4ece\u5c0f\u5230\u5927\u63a5\u89e6\u7684\u90fd\u662f\u540c\u4e00\u4e2a\u4ea7\u4e1a\uff0c\u53ea\u662f\u968f\u7740\u5730\u70b9\u4e0e\u5e02\u573a\u4e0d\u540c\uff0c\u670d\u52a1\u7684\u5bf9\u8c61\u4e5f\u6709\u6240\u8f6c\u6362\u3002\u6765\u5230\u7f8e\u56fd\u4e4b\u540e\uff0c\u5bb6\u65cf\u516c\u53f8\u4e3b\u8981\u7ecf\u8425\u8fdb\u51fa\u53e3\u6279\u53d1\uff0c\u670d\u52a1\u4e2d\u5357\u7f8e\u6d32\u7684\u5ba2\u6237\uff0c\u7b49\u4e8e\u662f\u626e\u6f14\u4e00\u4e2a\u8f6c\u8fd0\u4e0e\u4f9b\u8d27\u7684\u5e73\u53f0\u89d2\u8272\uff0c\u534f\u52a9\u4ed6\u4eec\u91c7\u8d2d\u548c\u8c03\u8d27\u3002<br \/><br \/>\u8fd9\u95e8\u751f\u610f\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7ea6\u505a\u4e86\u5341\u5e74\u3002\u5230\u4e862015\u5e74\uff0c\u5e02\u573a\u98ce\u5411\u5f00\u59cb\u8f6c\u53d8\uff0c\u539f\u672c\u4f9d\u8d56\u6765\u7f8e\u56fd\u91c7\u8d2d\u7684\u4e2d\u5357\u7f8e\u6d32\u5c0f\u578b\u6279\u53d1\u5546\uff0c\u9010\u6e10\u6539\u4e3a\u76f4\u63a5\u98de\u5f80\u4e2d\u56fd\uff0c\u7279\u522b\u662f\u524d\u5f80\u4e49\u4e4c\u8fdb\u8d27\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd\u7684\u8fdb\u53e3\u6279\u53d1\u4e1a\u52a1\u56e0\u6b64\u53d7\u5230\u4e0d\u5c0f\u7684\u5f71\u54cd\u3002\u867d\u7136\u8fd8\u6709\u90e8\u5206\u5ba2\u6237\u7ee7\u7eed\u5408\u4f5c\uff0c\u4f46\u6574\u4f53\u4e1a\u52a1\u91cf\u5df2\u5927\u4e0d\u5982\u524d\uff0c\u6700\u7ec8\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u4e5f\u987a\u52bf\u7ed3\u675f\u4e86\u8fd9\u6bb5\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd\u7684\u5bb6\u65cf\u516c\u53f8\u7ecf\u8425\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7fb79758 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"7fb79758\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121440\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0006_20230118-044811627-9132.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669372\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121440\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0006_20230118-044811627-9132.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121440\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0006_20230118-044811627-9132-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121440\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0006_20230118-044811627-9132-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121440\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0006_20230118-044811627-9132-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121440\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0006_20230118-044811627-9132-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121440\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0006_20230118-044811627-9132-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2016\u5e741\u67084\u65e5\uff0c\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u53f3\u4e00\uff09\u4e0e\u5fd7\u5de5\u524d\u5f80\u6838\u6843\u5e02\uff08Walnut,CA\uff09\u5546\u533a\u8fdb\u884c\u201c\u7231\u6d12\u4eba\u95f4\u201d\u5165\u4eba\u7fa4\u52df\u5fc3\u6d3b\u52a8\uff0c\u5e76\u4e0e\u5ba0\u7269\u5e97\u8001\u677f Sharon \u4e00\u540c\u5408\u5f71\uff0c\u4f20\u9012\u5584\u5ff5\u4e0e\u4eba\u6587\u5173\u6000\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u674e\u5f8b\u6148<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-81cb6b2 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"81cb6b2\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u4e00\u5ff5\u542f\u5fc3\u7275\u6148\u7f18<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8d8c115 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"8d8c115\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u6211\u5728\u6d1b\u6749\u77f6\u5f00\u5e97\u505a\u751f\u610f\u7684\u65f6\u5019\uff0c\u5f00\u59cb\u63a5\u89e6\u5230\u6148\u6d4e\u3002\u5f53\u65f6\u6709\u4e24\u4e2a\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u56e0\u7f18\uff0c\u8ba9\u6211\u5bf9\u8fd9\u4e2a\u56e2\u4f53\u4ea7\u751f\u521d\u6b65\u7684\u8ba4\u8bc6\u3002<\/p><p>\u7b2c\u4e00\u4e2a\u56e0\u7f18\uff0c\u662f\u6765\u81ea\u6211\u7684\u5927\u59b9\u3002\u5979\u6bd4\u6211\u66f4\u65e9\u5728\u53f0\u6e7e\u63a5\u89e6\u5230\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u540e\u6765\u5230\u5371\u5730\u9a6c\u62c9\u5ff5\u9ad8\u4e2d\uff0c\u518d\u8f97\u8f6c\u6765\u5230\u7f8e\u56fd\u5e2e\u5fd9\u5bb6\u91cc\u7684\u751f\u610f\u3002\u6709\u4e00\u5929\u5979\u63d0\u9192\u6211\uff1a\u201c\u5982\u679c\u5c06\u6765\u4f60\u7684\u5c0f\u5b69\u8981\u5b66\u4e2d\u6587\uff0c\u8bb0\u5f97\u8981\u65e9\u4e00\u70b9\u53bb\u62a5\u540d\u6148\u6d4e\u7684\u4e2d\u6587\u5b66\u6821\uff0c\u7279\u522b\u662f\u8499\u6d1b\u7ef4\u4e9a\uff08Monrovia\uff0c CA\uff09\u90a3\u8fb9\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u540d\u989d\u6709\u9650\uff0c\u592a\u665a\u62a5\u540d\u4f1a\u6392\u4e0d\u5230\u3002\u201d\u5979\u7684\u8fd9\u53e5\u8bdd\uff0c\u4e3a\u6211\u4e0e\u6148\u6d4e\u64ad\u4e0b\u4e86\u7b2c\u4e00\u9897\u79cd\u5b50\u3002<\/p><p>\u7b2c\u4e8c\u4e2a\u56e0\u7f18\uff0c\u5219\u662f\u8651\u6069\u5e08\u59ca\u548c\u60df\u8c6a\u5e08\u5144\u8fd9\u5bf9\u540c\u4fee\uff0c\u90a3\u65f6\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u6bcf\u4e2a\u6708\u90fd\u4f1a\u5e26\u7740\u300a\u6148\u6d4e\u300b\u6708\u520a\u5230\u719f\u8bc6\u7684\u5546\u5bb6\u62dc\u8bbf\uff0c\u4e5f\u4f1a\u987a\u9053\u4ecb\u7ecd\u6148\u6d4e\u8fd1\u671f\u7684\u6d3b\u52a8\u6216\u52df\u6b3e\u8baf\u606f\u3002\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e5f\u56fa\u5b9a\u6765\u6211\u4eec\u5e97\u91cc\uff0c\u548c\u6211\u4eec\u4ea4\u6d41\u4e92\u52a8\uff0c\u9010\u6e10\u8ba9\u6211\u5bf9\u6148\u6d4e\u6709\u66f4\u591a\u4e86\u89e3\u3002<\/p><p>\u8bf4\u6765\u4e5f\u662f\u4e00\u79cd\u7f18\u5206\uff0c\u5176\u5b9e\u6211\u5728\u53f0\u6e7e\u751f\u6d3b\u7684\u65f6\u95f4\u5e76\u4e0d\u957f\uff0c\u5f53\u6148\u6d4e\u5728\u53f0\u6e7e\u84ec\u52c3\u53d1\u5c55\u7684\u65f6\u5019\uff0c\u6211\u4eba\u65e9\u5df2\u51fa\u56fd\uff0c\u5bf9\u8fd9\u4e2a\u56e2\u4f53\u6240\u77e5\u6709\u9650\u3002\u53cd\u800c\u662f\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd\uff0c\u900f\u8fc7\u8fd9\u4e24\u4e2a\u56e0\u7f18\uff0c\u6211\u624d\u771f\u6b63\u8ba4\u8bc6\u6148\u6d4e\u3002\u4e5f\u56e0\u6b64\u540e\u6765\u8ba9\u6211\u4e24\u4e2a\u5b69\u5b50\u90fd\u53bb\u6148\u6d4e\u8499\u6d1b\u7ef4\u4e9a\u7684\u4eba\u6587\u5b66\u6821\u5b66\u4e2d\u6587\u3002<\/p><p>\u53e6\u4e00\u65b9\u9762\uff0c\u5bb6\u91cc\u7684\u56e0\u7f18\u4e5f\u5f88\u7279\u522b\uff0c\u6211\u5988\u5988\u540e\u6765\u4e5f\u63a5\u89e6\u4e86\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u5e76\u6210\u4e3a\u53d7\u8bc1\u59d4\u5458\uff0c\u800c\u6211\u7684\u5927\u59b9\u4e5f\u52a0\u5165\u4e86\u6148\u6d4e\u3002\u6211\u5988\u5988\u4e2a\u6027\u70ed\u60c5\u6d3b\u6cfc\uff0c\u53ea\u8981\u542c\u5230\u6709\u4eba\u662f\u4ece\u7f8e\u56fd\u56de\u53f0\u6e7e\u7684\uff0c\u5c31\u4f1a\u8bf4\uff1a\u201c\u6211\u5973\u513f\u4e5f\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd\uff0c\u662f\u6148\u6d4e\u4eba\u5594\uff01\u201d\u5e76\u9f13\u52b1\u5bf9\u65b9\u4e5f\u6765\u53c2\u52a0\u6148\u6d4e\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-712180b0 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"712180b0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121434\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0005_20230117-073014711-8558.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669368\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121434\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0005_20230117-073014711-8558.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121434\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0005_20230117-073014711-8558-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121434\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0005_20230117-073014711-8558-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121434\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0005_20230117-073014711-8558-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121434\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0005_20230117-073014711-8558-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121434\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0005_20230117-073014711-8558-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2016\u5e744\u670822\u65e5\uff0c\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u53f3\uff09\u4e0e\u5fd7\u5de5\u53d7\u9080\u53c2\u4e0e\u9c8d\u5fb7\u6e29\u516c\u56ed\u9ad8\u4e2d\uff08Baldwin Park High School\uff09\u4e3e\u529e\u7684\u201c\u4e16\u754c\u5730\u7403\u65e5\u56ed\u6e38\u4f1a\u201d\u6d3b\u52a8\uff0c\u5411\u5b66\u751f\u5ba3\u5bfc\u8339\u7d20\u62a4\u5730\u7403\u7406\u5ff5\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u66fe\u6c38\u5fe0<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-36dc152 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"36dc152\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u4e00\u58f0\u5e94\u5141\u625b\u4f7f\u547d<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-95e0392 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"95e0392\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u540e\u6765\u6211\u4eec\u5bb6\u7684\u751f\u610f\u7ed3\u675f\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u65f6\u95f4\u4e5f\u53d8\u5f97\u6bd4\u8f83\u591a\u3002\u6211\u548c\u738b\u6885\u82f1\u5e08\u59ca\u9010\u6e10\u719f\u7edc\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6211\u4eec\u7684\u5b69\u5b50\u662f\u6148\u6d4e\u4eba\u6587\u5b66\u6821\u7684\u540c\u73ed\u540c\u5b66\u3002\u5979\u662f\u7b2c\u4e00\u4efb\u73ed\u5988\u5988\uff0c\u8d1f\u8d23\u534f\u8c03\u6240\u6709\u5bb6\u957f\u548c\u7231\u5fc3\u5988\u5988\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u5728\u5b66\u6821\u7ecf\u5e38\u4e92\u52a8\uff0c\u6162\u6162\u5efa\u7acb\u8d77\u611f\u60c5\u3002\u7b49\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u81ea\u5df1\u5e94\u8be5\u53ef\u4ee5\u505a\u4e9b\u4ec0\u4e48\u3001\u4e5f\u60f3\u6295\u5165\u4e00\u70b9\u5fc3\u529b\u65f6\uff0c\u5c31\u4e3b\u52a8\u95ee\u5979\uff1a\u201c\u6709\u6ca1\u6709\u4ec0\u4e48\u4e8b\u662f\u6211\u53ef\u4ee5\u5e2e\u5fd9\u7684\uff1f\u201d<\/p><p>\u5979\u95ee\u6211\uff1a\u201c\u4f60\u4f1a\u4e0d\u4f1a\u5fcc\u8bb3\u53c2\u52a0\u544a\u522b\u5f0f\u6216\u52a9\u5ff5\uff1f\u201d<\/p><p>\u6211\u8bf4\uff1a\u201c\u4e0d\u4f1a\uff0c\u6211\u5bf9\u8fd9\u65b9\u9762\u6ca1\u6709\u4ec0\u4e48\u5fcc\u8bb3\u3002\u201d<\/p><p>\u5979\u8bf4\uff1a\u201c\u4ee5\u540e\u5982\u679c\u6709\u52a9\u5ff5\u6216\u544a\u522b\u5f0f\u7684\u6d3b\u52a8\uff0c\u6211\u901a\u77e5\u4f60\uff0c\u4f60\u613f\u610f\u6765\u53c2\u52a0\u5417\uff1f\u201d<\/p><p>\u6211\u8bf4\uff1a\u201c\u597d\u554a\uff0c\u6ca1\u95ee\u9898\u3002\u201d<\/p><p>\u5c31\u8fd9\u6837\uff0c\u6211\u6700\u65e9\u63a5\u89e6\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u53c2\u4e0e\u6700\u591a\u7684\u6d3b\u52a8\uff0c\u5176\u5b9e\u662f\u52a9\u5ff5\u548c\u544a\u522b\u5f0f\u3002\u8fd9\u662f\u6211\u771f\u6b63\u8d70\u8fdb\u6148\u6d4e\u7684\u7b2c\u4e00\u6b65\u3002<\/p><p>\u540e\u6765\uff0c\u5b59\u6148\u559c\u5e08\u59ca\u53c8\u95ee\u6211\uff1a\u201c\u4f60\u613f\u4e0d\u613f\u610f\u5f53\u8054\u7edc\u4eba\uff1f\u201d\u6211\u5fc3\u60f3\uff0c\u8054\u7edc\u4eba\u5e94\u8be5\u53ea\u662f\u5e2e\u5fd9\u8f6c\u8baf\u606f\u5427\uff0c\u5c31\u7b54\u5e94\u4e86\u3002\u6ca1\u60f3\u5230\u540e\u6765\u624d\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u8fd9\u5176\u5b9e\u662f\u201c\u534f\u529b\u7ec4\u957f\u201d\u7684\u89d2\u8272\uff01<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-79b73514 elementor-blockquote--skin-clean tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"79b73514\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\u4e5f\u8bb8\u662f\u6211\u592a\u5bb9\u6613\u8bf4\u201c\u597d\u201d\u4e86\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u5f88\u591a\u4e8b\u60c5\u5c31\u5728\u4e0d\u77e5\u4e0d\u89c9\u4e2d\uff0c\u81ea\u7136\u800c\u7136\u5730\u627f\u62c5\u8d77\u6765\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u5fd7\u5de5  \u9648\u946b\u7f28<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7c399f19 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"7c399f19\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121446\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0007_20230214-044247161-9012.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669376\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121446\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0007_20230214-044247161-9012.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121446\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0007_20230214-044247161-9012-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121446\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0007_20230214-044247161-9012-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121446\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0007_20230214-044247161-9012-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121446\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0007_20230214-044247161-9012-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121446\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0007_20230214-044247161-9012-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2018\u5e743\u670812\u65e5\uff0c\u5728\u6d1b\u6749\u77f6\u62c9\u84ec\u7279\uff08La Puente,CA\uff09\u7ef4\u62c9\u79d1\u5854\u5c0f\u5b66\uff08Villacorta Elementary School\uff09\u98df\u7269\u53d1\u653e\u73b0\u573a\uff0c\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u534f\u52a9\u6c11\u4f17\u5c06\u5927\u7231\u852c\u679c\u8f66\u63d0\u4f9b\u7684\u65b0\u9c9c\u852c\u679c\u4e0e\u98df\u7269\u642c\u8fd0\u4e0a\u8f66\uff0c\u5173\u6000\u5f53\u5730\u4f4e\u6536\u5165\u5bb6\u5ead\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u66fe\u6c38\u5fe0<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-74df1d6 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"74df1d6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u5831\u7a05\u52a9\u4eba\u50b3\u5584\u611b<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1cd6d676 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1cd6d676\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>2007\u5e74\uff0c\u6211\u6295\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u7684\u514d\u8d39\u62a5\u7a0e\u670d\u52a1\uff0c\u5176\u5b9e\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u4e00\u4e2a\u771f\u5b9e\u4e2a\u6848\u800c\u542f\u53d1\u7684\u3002<\/p><p>\u5f53\u65f6\uff0c\u5317\u5cad\u5730\u533a\u7684\u5e08\u5144\u59ca\u5728\u5173\u6000\u4e2a\u6848\u65f6\uff0c\u53d1\u73b0\u5bf9\u65b9\u6536\u5165\u5e76\u4e0d\u9ad8\uff0c\u5374\u88ab\u56fd\u7a0e\u5c40\uff08IRS\uff09\u8981\u6c42\u7f34\u7eb3\u5927\u7b14\u7a0e\u91d1\u3002\u540e\u6765\u5728\u4e00\u4f4d\u540c\u65f6\u4efb\u804c\u4e8e\u56fd\u7a0e\u5c40\u7684\u6148\u6d4e\u5fd7\u5de5\u534f\u52a9\u4e0b\uff0c\u624d\u67e5\u51fa\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u4f1a\u8ba1\u5e08\u62a5\u9519\u7a0e\uff0c\u624d\u8ba9\u4e2a\u6848\u591a\u7f34\u4e86\u8bb8\u591a\u4e0d\u8be5\u7f34\u7684\u7a0e\u3002<\/p><p>\u8fd9\u4ef6\u4e8b\u8ba9\u6211\u4eec\u6df1\u523b\u610f\u8bc6\u5230\uff0c\u7a0e\u52a1\u77e5\u8bc6\u7684\u7f3a\u4e4f\uff0c\u53ef\u80fd\u4f1a\u5bf9\u5f31\u52bf\u5bb6\u5ead\uff0c\u9020\u6210\u76f8\u5f53\u5927\u7684\u8d1f\u62c5\u4e0e\u56f0\u6270\u3002<\/p><p>\u56fd\u7a0e\u5c40\u7684\u6148\u6d4e\u5fd7\u5de5\u8fdb\u4e00\u6b65\u5206\u4eab\uff0c\u5176\u5b9e\u56fd\u7a0e\u5c40\u65e9\u6709\u4e00\u9879\u5e0c\u671b\u63a8\u5e7f\u5230\u793e\u533a\u7684\u514d\u8d39\u62a5\u7a0e\u670d\u52a1\u8ba1\u5212\uff08VITA\uff09\uff0c\u53ea\u662f\u591a\u5e74\u95f4\u59cb\u7ec8\u96be\u4ee5\u843d\u5b9e\u3002\u4e8e\u662f\u4ed6\u628a\u8fd9\u4e2a\u60f3\u6cd5\u5e26\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u4fc3\u6210\u4e86\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u4e0e\u56fd\u7a0e\u5c40\u7684\u9996\u6b21\u5408\u4f5c\uff0c\u5f00\u529e\u4e86\u7b2c\u4e00\u5e74\u7684\u514d\u8d39\u62a5\u7a0e\u670d\u52a1\u3002<\/p><p>\u521a\u597d\u6211\u672c\u8eab\u662f\u5546\u79d1\u80cc\u666f\uff0c\u5bf9\u6570\u5b57\u4e5f\u5f88\u6709\u5174\u8da3\uff0c\u5c31\u62a5\u540d\u53c2\u52a0\u4e86\u7b2c\u4e00\u5e74\u7684\u8bad\u7ec3\u8bfe\u7a0b\u3002\u90a3\u65f6\u6211\u60f3\uff0c\u53cd\u6b63\u6709\u4eba\u6765\u6559\uff0c\u5c31\u5f53\u4f5c\u5b66\u4e60\uff0c\u4e5f\u8bb8\u80fd\u5e2e\u5f97\u4e0a\u5fd9\uff0c\u6ca1\u60f3\u5230\u8fd9\u4e00\u5b66\uff0c\u7adf\u7136\u771f\u7684\u5b66\u4e0a\u624b\u4e86\u3002<\/p><p>\u540e\u6765\uff0c\u595a\u601d\u9053\u5e08\u5144\u8f7b\u8f7b\u5730\u95ee\u4e86\u6211\u4e00\u53e5\uff1a\u201c\u660e\u5e74\u80fd\u4e0d\u80fd\u7ee7\u7eed\u5e2e\u5fd9\uff1f\u201d\u6211\u5c31\u7b54\u5e94\u4e86\u3002\u5c31\u8fd9\u6837\uff0c\u4e00\u53e5\u8bdd\uff0c\u8ba9\u6211\u6b63\u5f0f\u6295\u5165\u4e86\u8fd9\u9879\u670d\u52a1\u3002<\/p><p>\u540e\u6765\u624d\u53d1\u73b0\uff0c\u6574\u4e2a\u6d41\u7a0b\u6bd4\u60f3\u50cf\u4e2d\u590d\u6742\u8bb8\u591a\uff0c\u8981\u7ecf\u8fc7\u5c42\u5c42\u8bad\u7ec3\u3001\u7b14\u8bd5\u3001\u5b9e\u52a1\u64cd\u4f5c\uff0c\u4f46\u4e5f\u6b63\u662f\u5728\u8fd9\u4e2a\u4e0d\u65ad\u5b66\u4e60\u4e0e\u5b9e\u8df5\u7684\u8fc7\u7a0b\u4e2d\uff0c\u6211\u627e\u5230\u4e86\u6210\u5c31\u611f\u3002\u80fd\u7528\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u4e13\u957f\uff0c\u771f\u6b63\u5e2e\u52a9\u5230\u9700\u8981\u7684\u4eba\uff0c\u8fd9\u4efd\u4ed8\u51fa\u8ba9\u6211\u89c9\u5f97\u5f88\u6709\u610f\u4e49\u3002<\/p><p>\u6211\u8bb0\u5f97\u6709\u4e00\u6b21\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u5e2e\u4e00\u4f4d\u82f1\u6587\u4e0d\u592a\u6d41\u5229\u7684\u6c11\u4f17\u5b8c\u6210\u62a5\u7a0e\uff0c\u540e\u6765\u5979\u6210\u4e3a\u6211\u4eec\u6301\u7eed\u5173\u6000\u7684\u4e2a\u6848\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u4e92\u52a8\u4e86\u597d\u51e0\u5e74\u3002\u6ca1\u60f3\u5230\u6709\u4e00\u5929\uff0c\u5979\u7adf\u7136\u9080\u8bf7\u6211\u53bb\u53c2\u52a0\u5979\u5973\u513f\u7684\u5a5a\u793c\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ab3a518 elementor-blockquote--skin-clean tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"ab3a518\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\u90a3\u4e00\u523b\uff0c\u6211\u771f\u7684\u5f88\u611f\u52a8\uff0c\u4e5f\u66f4\u6df1\u523b\u4f53\u4f1a\u5230\uff1a\u6148\u6d4e\u6240\u505a\u7684\uff0c\u4e0d\u53ea\u662f\u670d\u52a1\uff0c\u66f4\u662f\u4eba\u4e0e\u4eba\u4e4b\u95f4\u7684\u6df1\u523b\u8fde\u7ed3\u3002\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u5fd7\u5de5  \u9648\u946b\u7f28<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8688f87 elementor-hidden-tablet e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"8688f87\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4d6dfad elementor-hidden-mobile elementor-hidden-tablet elementor-cta--skin-classic elementor-animated-content elementor-bg-transform elementor-bg-transform-zoom-in tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-call-to-action\" data-id=\"4d6dfad\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"call-to-action.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-cta\" href=\"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__bg-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__bg elementor-bg\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/11114039\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_CTA%E2%80%94%E2%80%94CN-02.png);\" role=\"img\" aria-label=\"\u7f8e\u570b\u5927\u611b\u767e\u5bf6\u7bb1_CTA\u2014\u2014CN-02.png\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__bg-overlay\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__button-wrapper elementor-cta__content-item elementor-content-item \">\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-cta__button elementor-button elementor-size-xs\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\u64ad\u5ba2\u603b\u89c8\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5dfd3104 e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"5dfd3104\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7679a430 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"7679a430\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6363396 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"6363396\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121421\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0003_20221226-164838453-7466.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669360\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121421\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0003_20221226-164838453-7466.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121421\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0003_20221226-164838453-7466-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121421\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0003_20221226-164838453-7466-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121421\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0003_20221226-164838453-7466-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121421\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0003_20221226-164838453-7466-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121421\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0003_20221226-164838453-7466-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2011\u5e7412\u67083\u65e5\uff0c\u5357\u52a0\u5dde\u6148\u6d4e\u559c\u745e\u90fd\u8054\u7edc\u5904\u4e3e\u529e\u514d\u8d39\u62a5\u7a0e\u670d\u52a1\u57f9\u8bad\u8bfe\u7a0b\uff0c\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u5411\u5fd7\u5de5\u89e3\u8bf4\u7a0e\u52a1\u7533\u62a5\u8868\u7684\u586b\u5199\u6ce8\u610f\u4e8b\u9879\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u53f6\u5bcc\u5c71<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6e786759 e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"6e786759\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7a8a763 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"7a8a763\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121415\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0002_20221225-101849752-6187.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669356\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121415\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0002_20221225-101849752-6187.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121415\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0002_20221225-101849752-6187-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121415\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0002_20221225-101849752-6187-1024x578.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121415\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0002_20221225-101849752-6187-768x433.jpg 768w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121415\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0002_20221225-101849752-6187-1350x762.jpg 1350w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121415\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0002_20221225-101849752-6187-675x380.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2010\u5e745\u670825\u65e5\uff0c\u7f8e\u56fd\u56fd\u7a0e\u5c40\uff08IRS\uff09\u9881\u53d1\u611f\u8c22\u72b6\u8868\u626c\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u591a\u5e74\u6295\u5165\u4f4e\u6536\u5165\u6237\u514d\u8d39\u62a5\u7a0e\u670d\u52a1\uff0c\u7531\u5fd7\u5de5\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u4e2d\uff09\u4ee3\u8868\u63a5\u53d7\u80af\u5b9a\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u6797\u7f8e\u96ea<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-40a3adc e-flex e-con-boxed tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"40a3adc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-2eddaf9b e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"2eddaf9b\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6367836 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"6367836\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u63a8\u54c1\u4f20\u5fc3\u5f18\u5584\u9053<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b270b25 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b270b25\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u8fd9\u51e0\u5e74\uff0c\u6211\u5f00\u59cb\u627f\u62c5\u9759\u601d\u4e66\u8f69\u4e0e\u51c0\u65af\u4ea7\u54c1\u7684\u63a8\u5e7f\u4efb\u52a1\uff0c\u6700\u8fd1\u4e5f\u52a0\u5165\u201c\u52df\u5fc3\u52df\u7231\u201d\u9057\u4ea7\u6350\u8d60\u7684\u63a8\u52a8\u5de5\u4f5c\u3002\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4efb\u52a1\u5bf9\u6211\u6765\u8bf4\u90fd\u662f\u65b0\u7684\u6311\u6218\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u4e0d\u50cf\u8fc7\u53bb\u505a\u6279\u53d1\u6216\u96f6\u552e\u90a3\u6837\u5355\u7eaf\u3001\u76f4\u63a5\u3002<\/p><p>\u63a8\u5e7f\u9759\u601d\u4ea7\u54c1\uff0c\u4e0e\u6211\u4ee5\u5f80\u505a\u751f\u610f\u6700\u5927\u7684\u4e0d\u540c\uff0c\u5c31\u662f\u2014\u2014\u6211\u4eec\u4e0d\u53ea\u662f\u63a8\u9500\u5546\u54c1\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u5728\u4f20\u9012\u4e00\u4e2a\u54c1\u724c\u80cc\u540e\u7684\u7406\u5ff5\u4e0e\u7cbe\u795e\u3002\u8bc1\u4e25\u6cd5\u5e08\u66fe\u63d0\u9192\u6211\u4eec\uff1a\u201c\u6211\u4eec\u662f\u6cd5\u7684\u884c\u9500\u8005\uff0c\u662f\u6cd5\u54c1\u7684\u63a8\u5e7f\u8005\u3002\u201d\u8fd9\u53e5\u8bdd\u6df1\u6df1\u5f71\u54cd\u6211\u3002\u9759\u601d\u4ea7\u54c1\u6240\u4ee3\u8868\u7684\uff0c\u4e0d\u53ea\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u7269\u4ef6\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u4e00\u4efd\u6148\u6d4e\u7cbe\u795e\u7684\u5ef6\u4f38\uff0c\u662f\u9759\u601d\u7406\u5ff5\u7684\u5b9e\u8df5\u3002<\/p><p>\u5f88\u591a\u4eba\u5176\u5b9e\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053\uff0c\u6211\u4eec\u7684\u4ea7\u54c1\u2014\u2014\u5982\u9999\u79ef\u996d\u3001\u9759\u601d\u51c0\u7682\uff0c\u80cc\u540e\u90fd\u6709\u611f\u4eba\u7684\u6545\u4e8b\u3002\u9999\u79ef\u996d\u6765\u81ea\u6148\u6d4e\u5728\u707e\u533a\u6025\u96be\u6551\u63f4\u7684\u5b9e\u6218\u7ecf\u9a8c\uff0c\u662f\u4e00\u4efd\u80fd\u5feb\u901f\u4f20\u9012\u7231\u4e0e\u6e29\u9971\u7684\u201c\u6cd5\u54c1\u201d\uff1b\u800c\u9759\u601d\u51c0\u7682\u5219\u627f\u8f7d\u7740\u73af\u4fdd\u3001\u65e0\u6bd2\u4e0e\u5bf9\u5730\u7403\u53cb\u5584\u7684\u751f\u6d3b\u7684\u7406\u5ff5\u3002\u6211\u5e38\u8bf4\uff0c\u201c\u6211\u4eec\u4e0d\u662f\u5728\u5356\u4ea7\u54c1\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u5728\u5206\u4eab\u4e00\u79cd\u4ef7\u503c\u3002\u201d<\/p><p>\u7279\u522b\u662f\u5728\u4e0e\u5916\u56fd\u4eba\u4e92\u52a8\u65f6\uff0c\u6211\u66f4\u6df1\u523b\u5730\u4f53\u4f1a\u5230\uff1a\u5373\u4fbf\u4ed6\u4eec\u5bf9\u6148\u6d4e\u4e0d\u719f\u6089\uff0c\u4f46\u5f53\u6211\u544a\u8bc9\u4ed6\u4eec\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u4ea7\u54c1\u7684\u6536\u5165\u662f\u7528\u6765\u62a4\u6301\u5fd7\u4e1a\u3001\u63a8\u52a8\u6148\u5584\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u7684\u63a5\u53d7\u5ea6\u53cd\u800c\u5f88\u9ad8\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-49bb2dd elementor-blockquote--skin-clean tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-blockquote\" data-id=\"49bb2dd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"blockquote.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"elementor-blockquote\">\n\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-blockquote__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\u4ed6\u4eec\u770b\u5230\u7684\uff0c\u4e0d\u53ea\u662f\u5546\u54c1\u672c\u8eab\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u6709\u6545\u4e8b\u3001\u6709\u4fe1\u5ff5\u3001\u6709\u793e\u4f1a\u8d23\u4efb\u611f\u7684\u54c1\u724c\u3002\u8fd9\u4e5f\u662f\u6211\u613f\u610f\u6301\u7eed\u63a8\u52a8\u9759\u601d\u4ea7\u54c1\u7684\u539f\u56e0\u2014\u2014\u8ba9\u66f4\u591a\u4eba\u900f\u8fc7\u4e00\u4efd\u4ea7\u54c1\uff0c\u8d70\u8fdb\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u8ba4\u8bc6\u8fd9\u4efd\u7cbe\u795e\u4e0e\u529b\u91cf\u3002\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-q-footer\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<cite class=\"elementor-blockquote__author\">\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u5fd7\u5de5  \u9648\u946b\u7f28<\/cite>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ddebc6a tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"ddebc6a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u81f3\u4e8e\u201c\u52df\u5fc3\u52df\u7231\u201d\u7684\u9057\u4ea7\u6350\u8d60\u63a8\u52a8\uff0c\u6211\u81ea\u5df1\u4e5f\u8fd8\u5728\u5b66\u4e60\u5f53\u4e2d\u3002\u4f46\u6211\u76f8\u4fe1\uff1a\u53ea\u8981\u6709\u5fc3\uff0c\u4e00\u5207\u5c31\u4e0d\u96be\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f9468d1 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"f9468d1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"wp-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"690\" height=\"790\" src=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13132609\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_2.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-669385\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13132609\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_2.jpg 690w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13132609\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_2-262x300.jpg 262w, https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13132609\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_2-675x773.jpg 675w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 690px) 100vw, 690px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"widget-image-caption wp-caption-text\">2019\u5e7410\u670814\u65e5\uff0c\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u603b\u4f1a\u5fd7\u5de5\u4e0e\u5357\u52a0\u5dde\u7f57\u5170\u8054\u5408\u5b66\u533a\uff08Rowland Unified School District\uff09\u5408\u4f5c\u5c55\u5f00\u5927\u7231\u852c\u679c\u8f66\u53d1\u653e\uff0c\u9648\u946b\u7f28\uff08\u4e2d\uff09\u534f\u52a9\u6c11\u4f17\u63d0\u9886\u7269\u8d44\u3002\u6444\u5f71\uff0f\u53f6\u664b\u5b8f<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7be94e6 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"7be94e6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">\u5b9e\u5e72\u6210\u613f\u6700\u5fc3\u5b89<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-67bd3740 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"67bd3740\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u6211\u52a0\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u5df2\u7ecf\u8d85\u8fc7\u4e8c\u5341\u5e74\u4e86\u30022008\u5e74\u6b63\u5f0f\u53d7\u8bc1\u3002\u5982\u679c\u4ece2000\u5e74\u5b69\u5b50\u5f00\u59cb\u4e0a\u6148\u6d4e\u4eba\u6587\u5b66\u6821\u7b97\u8d77\uff0c\u4e5f\u8d70\u8fc7\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u5e74\u4e86\u3002<\/p><p>\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5e74\u6765\uff0c\u6709\u592a\u591a\u8ba9\u6211\u611f\u52a8\u7684\u7247\u6bb5\uff0c\u5f88\u591a\u6765\u81ea\u5e08\u5144\u5e08\u59ca\u7684\u4e92\u52a8\uff0c\u6709\u4e9b\u662f\u699c\u6837\uff0c\u6709\u4e9b\u662f\u63d0\u9192\uff0c\u4e5f\u6709\u4e9b\u53ea\u662f\u4e00\u53e5\u8bdd\u3001\u4e00\u4e2a\u4e3e\u52a8\uff0c\u5374\u8ba9\u6211\u611f\u53d7\u5230\u5982\u5bb6\u4eba\u822c\u7684\u6e29\u6696\uff0c\u652f\u6491\u7740\u6211\u4e00\u76f4\u8d70\u5728\u8fd9\u6761\u8def\u4e0a\u3002<\/p><p>\u6211\u5e38\u8bf4\uff0c\u6148\u6d4e\u4e0d\u540c\u4e8e\u4e00\u822c\u7684\u6148\u5584\u56e2\u4f53\u2014\u2014\u6211\u4eec\u4e0d\u53ea\u662f\u4ed8\u51fa\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u5728\u4fee\u884c\u3002\u6bcf\u4e00\u6b21\u53c2\u4e0e\uff0c\u6bcf\u4e00\u5206\u627f\u62c5\uff0c\u5bf9\u6211\u6765\u8bf4\uff0c\u90fd\u662f\u4fee\u884c\u7684\u4e00\u90e8\u5206\u3002\u80fd\u8d70\u8fdb\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u4e0e\u8bc1\u4e25\u6cd5\u5e08\u7684\u56e0\u7f18\uff0c\u800c\u8fd9\u4e9b\u5e74\u5728\u6148\u6d4e\u7684\u5b66\u4e60\uff0c\u66f4\u8ba9\u6211\u4f53\u4f1a\u5230\u4ec0\u4e48\u53eb\u201c\u5c06\u4f5b\u6cd5\u843d\u5b9e\u5728\u751f\u6d3b\u4e2d\u201d\u3002<\/p><p>\u5f53\u7136\uff0c\u8fd9\u6761\u8def\u4e5f\u4e0d\u662f\u4e00\u8def\u987a\u5229\uff0c\u6709\u65f6\u4f1a\u201c\u8e22\u5230\u94c1\u677f\u201d\uff0c\u9047\u5230\u56f0\u96be\u548c\u632b\u6298\u3002\u4f46\u6bcf\u5f53\u8fd9\u4e9b\u65f6\u523b\uff0c\u4e00\u53e5\u8bdd\u3001\u4e00\u4e2a\u62e5\u62b1\uff0c\u5c31\u50cf\u5149\u4e00\u6837\u63d0\u9192\u6211\uff1a\u201c\u5bf9\uff0c\u6211\u7559\u4e0b\u6765\u662f\u6709\u539f\u56e0\u7684\u3002\u201d\u8fd9\u4e9b\u70b9\u70b9\u6ef4\u6ef4\uff0c\u8ba9\u6211\u81f3\u4eca\u672a\u66fe\u79bb\u5f00\uff0c\u4e5f\u613f\u610f\u4e00\u76f4\u8d70\u4e0b\u53bb\u3002<\/p><p>\u6211\u5e38\u60f3\uff0c\u5982\u679c\u6ca1\u6709\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u4eba\u751f\u4f1a\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\u6837\uff1f\u6211\u771f\u7684\u65e0\u6cd5\u60f3\u50cf\u3002\u6148\u6d4e\uff0c\u50cf\u662f\u4e00\u6761\u8ba9\u6211\u5b89\u5fc3\u3001\u8e0f\u5b9e\u7684\u8def\u3002\u5c24\u5176\u662f\u8bc1\u4e25\u6cd5\u5e08\u7684\u7406\u5ff5\uff0c\u4ee5\u53ca\u90a3\u79cd\u201c\u8bf4\u5230\u505a\u5230\u201d\u7684\u7cbe\u795e\uff0c\u6df1\u6df1\u89e6\u52a8\u4e86\u6211\u3002<\/p><p>\u6211\u4e00\u76f4\u76f8\u4fe1\uff1a\u552f\u6709\u4eb2\u624b\u53bb\u505a\uff0c\u624d\u80fd\u771f\u6b63\u4f53\u4f1a\u3002\u201c\u542c\u201d\u522b\u4eba\u7684\u6545\u4e8b\uff0c\u4f1a\u611f\u52a8\uff0c\u4f46\u90a3\u4efd\u611f\u52a8\u5f88\u5feb\u5c31\u4f1a\u6d88\u6563\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u90a3\u4e0d\u662f\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u3002\u800c\u5f53\u4f60\u4eb2\u8eab\u6295\u5165\uff0c\u4eb2\u624b\u5b9e\u8df5\uff0c\u5c31\u4f1a\u7406\u89e3\u8bc1\u4e25\u6cd5\u5e08\u8bdd\u8bed\u7684\u6df1\u610f\uff0c\u8ba9\u611f\u52a8\u5185\u5316\u4e3a\u529b\u91cf\u3002<\/p><p>\u8fd9\u5206\u6765\u81ea\u884c\u52a8\u7684\u4f53\u609f\uff0c\u624d\u662f\u771f\u6b63\u5c5e\u4e8e\u81ea\u5df1\u7684\u611f\u52a8\uff0c\u4e5f\u624d\u6709\u6210\u4e3a\u652f\u6301\u6211\u4eec\u6301\u7eed\u8d70\u4e0b\u53bb\u7684\u529b\u91cf\u3002\u4e0d\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u80fd\u505a\u624d\u53bb\u505a\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u56e0\u4e3a\u613f\u610f\u53bb\u505a\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5\u624d\u505a\u5f97\u6210\u3002<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-347c19fc e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"347c19fc\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3a0b6852 tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3a0b6852\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center\">\u66f4\u591a\u6148\u6d4e\u4eba\u5728\u7f8e\u56fd\u7684\u611f\u4eba\u6545\u4e8b\uff1a<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4973adea elementor-align-center tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-button\" data-id=\"4973adea\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"button.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-button-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-button elementor-button-link elementor-size-md\" href=\"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/zh\/family-tree-ebook\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-content-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-button-text\">\u6b22\u8fce\u9605\u8bfb\u3010\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u5bb6\u8c31\u3011\u7cfb\u5217\u7535\u5b50\u4e66<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-76b85670 elementor-hidden-tablet e-con-full e-flex tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes e-con e-child\" data-id=\"76b85670\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7287471 elementor-hidden-mobile elementor-hidden-tablet elementor-cta--skin-classic elementor-animated-content elementor-bg-transform elementor-bg-transform-zoom-in tzu-responsive-elementor-ranged-yes elementor-widget elementor-widget-call-to-action\" data-id=\"7287471\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"call-to-action.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<a class=\"elementor-cta\" href=\"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__bg-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__bg elementor-bg\" style=\"background-image: url(https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/11114039\/%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E6%84%9B%E7%99%BE%E5%AF%B6%E7%AE%B1_CTA%E2%80%94%E2%80%94CN-02.png);\" role=\"img\" aria-label=\"\u7f8e\u570b\u5927\u611b\u767e\u5bf6\u7bb1_CTA\u2014\u2014CN-02.png\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__bg-overlay\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-cta__button-wrapper elementor-cta__content-item elementor-content-item \">\n\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"elementor-cta__button elementor-button elementor-size-xs\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\u64ad\u5ba2\u603b\u89c8\t\t\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u6148\u6fdf\u7f8e\u570b\u7e3d\u6703\u5fd7\u5de5\u9673\u946b\u7e93\u5206\u4eab\u5f9e\u5546\u8f49\u5fd7\u3001\u4ee5\u884c\u9858\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6fdf\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6b77\u7a0b\u3002<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":669352,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1372],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-669629","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcast-cn"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"\u6148\u6fdf\u7f8e\u570b\u7e3d\u6703\u5fd7\u5de5\u9673\u946b\u7e93\u5206\u4eab\u5f9e\u5546\u8f49\u5fd7\u3001\u4ee5\u884c\u9858\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6fdf\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6b77\u7a0b\u3002\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"zh_CN\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"\u6148\u6fdf\u7f8e\u570b\u7e3d\u6703\u5fd7\u5de5\u9673\u946b\u7e93\u5206\u4eab\u5f9e\u5546\u8f49\u5fd7\u3001\u4ee5\u884c\u9858\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6fdf\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6b77\u7a0b\u3002\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u4e2d\u6587\u7f51\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2026-01-13T21:45:17+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2026-01-22T18:47:53+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121408\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1400\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"790\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"weiny\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"weiny\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/6565b48817edc19b3ca6ce1eea816286\"},\"headline\":\"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5\",\"datePublished\":\"2026-01-13T21:45:17+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2026-01-22T18:47:53+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview\"},\"wordCount\":34,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#organization\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/media.tzuchi.us\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/01\\\/13121408\\\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg\",\"articleSection\":[\"\u64ad\u5ba2\"],\"inLanguage\":\"zh-CN\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview\",\"name\":\"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/media.tzuchi.us\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/01\\\/13121408\\\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg\",\"datePublished\":\"2026-01-13T21:45:17+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2026-01-22T18:47:53+00:00\",\"description\":\"\u6148\u6fdf\u7f8e\u570b\u7e3d\u6703\u5fd7\u5de5\u9673\u946b\u7e93\u5206\u4eab\u5f9e\u5546\u8f49\u5fd7\u3001\u4ee5\u884c\u9858\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6fdf\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6b77\u7a0b\u3002\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"zh-CN\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"zh-CN\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/media.tzuchi.us\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/01\\\/13121408\\\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/media.tzuchi.us\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/01\\\/13121408\\\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg\",\"width\":1400,\"height\":790},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\",\"name\":\"\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u4e2d\u6587\u7f51\",\"description\":\"In addition to charity, Buddhist Tzu Chi Foundation dedicates itself in the fields of medicine, education, environmental protection, international relief and the establishment of one of the world\u2019s largest bone marrow donor registry.\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"zh-CN\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#organization\",\"name\":\"Tzu Chi USA\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"zh-CN\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/media.tzuchi.us\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2020\\\/11\\\/13102507\\\/TzuChiUSA_logo.png\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/media.tzuchi.us\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2020\\\/11\\\/13102507\\\/TzuChiUSA_logo.png\",\"width\":500,\"height\":335,\"caption\":\"Tzu Chi USA\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\"}},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/6565b48817edc19b3ca6ce1eea816286\",\"name\":\"weiny\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"zh-CN\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/156e3404cb84e83409b6da45ffc0a8b16b764219aa7ce1320bbfd1b88cd59971?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/156e3404cb84e83409b6da45ffc0a8b16b764219aa7ce1320bbfd1b88cd59971?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/156e3404cb84e83409b6da45ffc0a8b16b764219aa7ce1320bbfd1b88cd59971?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"weiny\"},\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/tzuchi.us\\\/cn\\\/blog\\\/author\\\/weiny\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5","description":"\u6148\u6fdf\u7f8e\u570b\u7e3d\u6703\u5fd7\u5de5\u9673\u946b\u7e93\u5206\u4eab\u5f9e\u5546\u8f49\u5fd7\u3001\u4ee5\u884c\u9858\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6fdf\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6b77\u7a0b\u3002","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview","og_locale":"zh_CN","og_type":"article","og_title":"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5","og_description":"\u6148\u6fdf\u7f8e\u570b\u7e3d\u6703\u5fd7\u5de5\u9673\u946b\u7e93\u5206\u4eab\u5f9e\u5546\u8f49\u5fd7\u3001\u4ee5\u884c\u9858\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6fdf\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6b77\u7a0b\u3002","og_url":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview","og_site_name":"\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u4e2d\u6587\u7f51","article_published_time":"2026-01-13T21:45:17+00:00","article_modified_time":"2026-01-22T18:47:53+00:00","og_image":[{"width":1400,"height":790,"url":"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121408\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg","type":"image\/jpeg"}],"author":"weiny","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview"},"author":{"name":"weiny","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#\/schema\/person\/6565b48817edc19b3ca6ce1eea816286"},"headline":"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5","datePublished":"2026-01-13T21:45:17+00:00","dateModified":"2026-01-22T18:47:53+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview"},"wordCount":34,"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#organization"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121408\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg","articleSection":["\u64ad\u5ba2"],"inLanguage":"zh-CN"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview","url":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview","name":"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121408\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg","datePublished":"2026-01-13T21:45:17+00:00","dateModified":"2026-01-22T18:47:53+00:00","description":"\u6148\u6fdf\u7f8e\u570b\u7e3d\u6703\u5fd7\u5de5\u9673\u946b\u7e93\u5206\u4eab\u5f9e\u5546\u8f49\u5fd7\u3001\u4ee5\u884c\u9858\u8d70\u5165\u6148\u6fdf\u7684\u751f\u547d\u6b77\u7a0b\u3002","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"zh-CN","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"zh-CN","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121408\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/13121408\/TzuChiUSA-podcast-ep26-Chen-interview_0000_IMG_0961.jpg","width":1400,"height":790},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/podcast-ep25-ingrid-chen-interview#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"\u7f8e\u56fd\u5927\u7231\u767e\u5b9d\u7bb1\u7b2c\u4e8c\u5341\u4e94\u96c6 \u5bb6\u4e1a\u5386\u7ec3\u5fc3\u66f4\u9759\u2014\u2014\u9648\u946b\u7f28\u30fb\u4ece\u5546\u8f6c\u5165\u6148\u6d4e\u60c5"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#website","url":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn","name":"\u6148\u6d4e\u7f8e\u56fd\u4e2d\u6587\u7f51","description":"In addition to charity, Buddhist Tzu Chi Foundation dedicates itself in the fields of medicine, education, environmental protection, international relief and the establishment of one of the world\u2019s largest bone marrow donor registry.","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"zh-CN"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#organization","name":"Tzu Chi USA","url":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"zh-CN","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/13102507\/TzuChiUSA_logo.png","contentUrl":"https:\/\/media.tzuchi.us\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/13102507\/TzuChiUSA_logo.png","width":500,"height":335,"caption":"Tzu Chi USA"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"}},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn#\/schema\/person\/6565b48817edc19b3ca6ce1eea816286","name":"weiny","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"zh-CN","@id":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/156e3404cb84e83409b6da45ffc0a8b16b764219aa7ce1320bbfd1b88cd59971?s=96&d=mm&r=g","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/156e3404cb84e83409b6da45ffc0a8b16b764219aa7ce1320bbfd1b88cd59971?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/156e3404cb84e83409b6da45ffc0a8b16b764219aa7ce1320bbfd1b88cd59971?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"weiny"},"url":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/blog\/author\/weiny"}]}},"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/669629","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/91"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=669629"}],"version-history":[{"count":26,"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/669629\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":671328,"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/669629\/revisions\/671328"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/669352"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=669629"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=669629"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/tzuchi.us\/cn\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=669629"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}